Scott is joined by James Carden to discuss a possible silver lining to the new and unnecessary anti-China pact between Australia, the U.K. and the U.S. (AUKUS). Tensions broke out within NATO after France was unexpectedly cut off from a previously negotiated submarine deal with Australia. Carden thinks some infighting can do some good if it leads to the end of this out-of-date military alliance that threatens peace rather than preserving it. 

Discussed on the show:

• Video of Mearsheimer appearing to threaten Australia
• The Tragedy of Great Power Politics by John Mearsheimer
• “NATO Needs to Adapt Quickly to Stay Relevant for 2030, Report Urges” (New York Times)

James Carden is the executive editor for the American Committee for US-Russia Accord and former adviser on Russia policy at the US State Department. He is a contributing writer at The Nation.

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