Eli Clifton discusses the Biden Administration’s Afghanistan study group, a panel of national security experts and former officers giving recommendations on whether the U.S. should get out of Afghanistan on the Trump administration’s withdrawal timeline. Some of these experts have recommended that we pull troops out soon, but the majority have counseled against a hasty withdrawal—which of course in practice could very well mean staying indefinitely. Clifton points out the obvious problem with this group: most of its members have current or former financial ties to the arms industry. Even if these experts aren’t giving recommendations solely on the basis of personal financial interest, their backgrounds at least indicate that they are the type of people who associate professionally with weapons manufacturers, and are therefore likely to hold views that are favorable to the those who plan and benefit from war.

Discussed on the show:

• “Weapons biz bankrolls experts pushing to extend Afghan War” (Quincy Institute for Responsible Statecraft)
• “Sheldon Adelson’s legacy of underwriting American militarism” (Quincy Institute for Responsible Statecraft)
• “Twins (1988)” (IMDb)

Eli Clifton is a reporting fellow with The Investigative Fund at The Nation Institute and a contributing editor for Lobe Log. Follow him on Twitter @EliClifton.

This episode of the Scott Horton Show is sponsored by: The War State, by Mike Swanson; Tom Woods’ Liberty Classroom; ExpandDesigns.com/Scott; Photo IQ; Green Mill Supercritical; Zippix Toothpicks; and Listen and Think Audio.

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Ray McGovern talks with Scott about the lies and malfeasance of the national security state during the “Russiagate” fiasco. McGovern begins by rehashing the FBI’s lies that first led to a FISA warrant on Carter Page, who they failed to disclose to the court was already a CIA asset who was delivering them information about the Russians. McGovern also reminds us that Comey himself lied about the reliability of the evidence in the Steele dossier, which in private he revealed that he knew to be dubious. But of course the real target was always Donald Trump and his campaign all along, who could be easily spied on thanks to the “two hops” principle, by which almost anyone can become the target of “legitimate” surveillance according to the convoluted and malicious system of the national security apparatus.

Discussed on the show:

• “Will Comey’s Words Come Back To Haunt Him?” (Antiwar.com Original)
• “The Shaky Case That Russia Manipulated Social Media to Tip the 2016 Election” (Consortium News)
• Hate Inc.: Why Today’s Media Makes Us Despise One Another
  
• “James Comey, Whistleblower” (CounterPunch.org)
• The Complex (American Empire Project)
  
• Mary’s Mosaic: The CIA Conspiracy to Murder John F. Kennedy, Mary Pinchot Meyer, and Their Vision for World Peace: Third Edition
  

Ray McGovern is the co-creator of Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity and the former chief of the CIA’s Soviet analysts division. Read all of his work at his website: raymcgovern.com.

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Scott interviews Gareth Porter about his coverage of the recent and widespread claims of a Chinese genocide of the Uyghurs. Many of these accusations have relied on the work of one man, Adrian Zenz, whose research Porter calls into question. Porter wrote a piece with Grayzone collaborator Max Blumenthal covering the many instances of data manipulation on Zenz’s part, all of which undermine the case that the Chinese government is perpetrating a genocide. To be clear, says Porter, China is an authoritarian regime with many instances of mistreatment of all its citizens. And the Uyghurs have, in some cases, borne a disproportionate amount of that abuse. But we have to be very careful in distinguishing truth from exaggerated claims by partisans and ideologues, who may have reasons for deliberately inflaming tensions between China and the U.S. Peace between these two countries, he reminds us, is absolutely vital for global security.

Discussed on the show:

• “US State Department accusation of China ‘genocide’ relied on data abuse and baseless claims by far-right ideologue” (The Grayzone)

Gareth Porter is an investigative historian and journalist on the national security state. He is the author of Manufactured Crisis: The Untold Story of the Iran Nuclear Scare and, with John Kiriakou, The CIA Insider’s Guide to the Iran Crisis. Follow him on Twitter @GarethPorter and listen to Gareth’s previous appearances on the Scott Horton Show.

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Scott talks to Ben Wizner of the ACLU about the ongoing Julian Assange saga. Assange’s attempted prosecution under the Espionage Act is practically unprecedented, says Wizner. While it’s true that many leakers of government secrets have been charged for violations of secrecy agreements, no journalist or publisher has ever been successfully prosecuted for putting those secrets out to the public. The Obama administration considered going after Assange, but realized that to do so would set a precedent that would also encapsulate the New York Times, the Washington Post and any other outlet that claims to conduct national security journalism. The Trump administration, on the other hand, apparently wasn’t concerned with that problem, and went after Assange anyway. Wizner and Scott just hope that mainstream journalists will realize what a problem it would be if Assange were convicted, not just for their livelihoods, but for American liberal democracy as we know it.

Discussed on the show:

• “Baghdad War Diary” (WikiLeaks)
• “Kabul War Diary” (WikiLeaks)
• “State Department Cables” (WikiLeaks)

Ben Wizner is an American lawyer, writer, and civil liberties advocate with the American Civil Liberties Union. Follow him on Twitter @benwizner.

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Nathan Robinson shares his story of being fired from the Guardian after posting a sarcastic tweet about Israel. After joking about the amount of military aid the U.S. government sends to Israel, Robinson was immediately labeled an anti-semite and swiftly fired from his position as a columnist at the Guardian. He is hardly the first to endure such treatment. Robinson points out how ironic the favorable treatment of the state of Israel is by world governments and the mainstream media, all while it is guilty of serious and ongoing abuses against the Palestinians. Criticism of Israel, on the other hand, even on the grounds of its human rights abuses, is quickly silenced.

Discussed on the show:

• “How the Media Cracks Down on Critics of Israel” (Current Affairs)

Nathan J. Robinson is Editor-in-Chief of Current Affairs and a former columnist for the Guardian. Follow him on Twitter @NathanJRobinson.

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Phil Weiss is back to discuss Israel, beginning with the observation us that now that the two-state solution is essentially off the table for good, it’s impossible to ignore the fact that Israel is an apartheid state that has enshrined in law its subjugation of the Palestinians. Part of this growth in Israel’s boldness can be lain at the feet of Donald Trump, who was unusually loyal to Israel, even by the standards of American politics. But Weiss doesn’t expect much in America’s Israel policy to change under President Biden, who has long been known as one of Israel’s best friends in Washington. Whatever Biden’s personal feelings about Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, Israel’s lobby simply wields too much power in domestic politics for one president to change the whole system.

Discussed on the show:

• Palestine: Peace Not Apartheid
  
• “Arkansas’ anti-BDS law violates the First Amendment, says court” (Mondoweiss)
• “Israeli Jewish ‘leftists’ will vote for far-right Sa’ar to oust Netanyahu” (Mondoweiss)
• “Pressure mounts on State Dep’t: If Navalny deserves support, why not Issa Amro?” (Mondoweiss)

Philip Weiss is the long-time editor of Mondoweiss.net. Follow him on Twitter @PhilWeiss.

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Scott talks to Mike Swanson about some of the problems in the U.S. economy and what we can expect in the near future. Scott points out the emerging real estate booms in places like Austin, Texas, as wealthy residents of states with severe lockdowns seek relief in states with less strict policies. These price spikes represent real demand, no doubt, but they come at the expense of local residents who can no longer afford to live in their home cities. Swanson adds that the real unemployment levels are much higher than official figures indicate, thanks to people who have been out of work so long they’re no longer actively looking for jobs. Historically, he says, this level of unemployment has led to social turmoil in the form of strikes, protests and even riots. He wonders to what degree the unrest seen over the summer and at the U.S. Capitol last month are related to the economic hardship that Americans have been facing for 11 months now. Unfortunately, explains Swanson, all the tools that the government has for addressing problems like unemployment and inflation only lead to even worse problems. Whatever form the eventual devastation takes, Americans must be prepared for more instability and hardship.

Discussed on the show:

• Why The Vietnam War?: Nuclear Bombs and Nation Building in Southeast Asia, 1945-1961
  
• Perils of Dominance: Imbalance of Power and the Road to War in Vietnam
  
• The Creature from Jekyll Island: A Second Look at the Federal Reserve
  
• The Great Deformation: The Corruption of Capitalism in America
  

Mike Swanson provides investment advice at wallstreetwindow.com and is the author of The War State: The Cold War Origins Of The Military-Industrial Complex And The Power Elite. He also works with the Neopolis Media Group, a group of historians, educators, authors, researchers, and free speech advocates who endeavor to provide original and engaging content, including The Ochelli Effect, and The Lone Gunman Podcast.

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Nasser Arrabyee discusses the heavy fighting going on outside of Ma’rib, the last stronghold of the Saudi-backed government in Yemen. The Houthi “rebels” are closing in on the city, says Arrabyee, and may capture it within a few days—doing so could give them the bargaining chip they need to finally negotiate an end to Saudi aggression against their country and their people. Arrabyee hails the recent announcement of an end to American support for Saudi “offensive operations” as very good news, but insists that the suffering will not end until the Saudi blockade is abolished. Most of the deaths in Yemen have not been due to direct fighting, but instead to starvation and easily-preventable illnesses like cholera. Hundreds of thousands of civilians, at least, have died from these factors—many of them children—and hundreds of thousands more are at risk for as long as the blockade continues.

Discussed on the show:

• “‘Serious’ questions over SAS involvement in Yemen war” (The Guardian)
• “UN Warns 400,000 Yemeni Children May Starve To Death In 2021” (Forbes)

Nasser Arrabyee is a Yemeni journalist based in Sana’a, Yemen. He is the owner and director of yemen-now.com. You can follow him on Twitter @narrabyee.

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