Kevin Gosztola is back with an update on Julian Assange and Daniel Hale, both of whom continue to languish in maximum security prisons for the “crime” of telling the people about the very real crimes of their own governments. Although a UK judge denied the U.S. extradition request in Assange’s case, she also granted the Justice Department an appeal of the decision, and ordered that Assange continue to be held until the appeal. It’s especially ironic that Assange and Hale are being held under inhumane conditions that are dangerous for their mental health, when the abysmal conditions of U.S. prisons was precisely the British judge’s reason for denying Assange’s appeal.

Discussed on the show:

• “Assange Extradition: High Court Grants US A Limited Appeal” (Shadowproof)
• “7/1/21 Bjartmar Alexandersson on the Lies of America’s Star Witness Against Julian Assange” (The Libertarian Institute)
• “The Drone Papers: Secret documents detail the U.S. assassination program.” (The Intercept)
• The Assassination Complex: Inside the Government’s Secret Drone Warfare Program
  
• “National Bird (2016)” (IMDb)
• “Kabul War Diary” (WikiLeaks)
• The Pentagon Papers

Kevin Gosztola is managing editor of Shadowproof. He also produces and co-hosts the weekly podcast, “Unauthorized Disclosure.” Follow him on Twitter @kgosztola.

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Scott talks to Danny Sjursen about U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan, which at the moment the Biden administration appears poised to follow through with. Sjursen is concerned about the response from the mainstream media and both party establishments—Republicans claim pulling out of Afghanistan makes America look weak; Democrats fear that pulling out will make Biden look weak politically. With this kind of bipartisan consensus, it’s extremely difficult to get things done that the establishment doesn’t like. (But it’s also a sure sign that the right thing to do is the exact opposite of whatever they both agree on.) All our time in Afghanistan, Sjursen says, hasn’t helped the people of that country, and it certainly hasn’t made Americans any safer.

Discussed on the show:

• “Spare Us an Afghan Threequel, Joe: Don’t Get Pulled Back In!” (Antiwar.com)
• “Truman As The BUTCHER of ASIA” (History News Network)
• “The Man Who Would Be King (1975)” (IMDb)
• An Enemy We Created: The Myth of the Taliban-Al Qaeda Merger in Afghanistan
  

Danny Sjursen is a retired U.S. army major and former history instructor at West Point. He is the author of Ghost Riders of Baghdad: Soldiers, Civilians, and the Myth of the Surge, Patriotic Dissent: America in the Age of Endless War and A True History of the United States: Indigenous Genocide, Racialized Slavery, Hyper-Capitalism, Militarist Imperialism and Other Overlooked Aspects of American Exceptionalism. Follow him on Twitter @SkepticalVet.

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New advertiser Jared Wall joins the show to discuss his website, thchempspot.com, which offers cannabis products containing Delta-8 THC, a form of psychoactive THC that’s perfectly legal almost everywhere in the United States.

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Scott interviews Andrew Cockburn about his new book, Rumsfeld: His Rise, Fall, and Catastrophic Legacy. Scott and Cockburn discuss Rumsfeld’s ascent to power through various presidential administrations, with special focus on his role in the disastrous post-9/11 terror wars. In addition to the historical events, Cockburn shares many private anecdotes about Rumsfeld’s character from those who knew him.

Discussed on the show:

• Rumsfeld: His Rise, Fall, and Catastrophic Legacy
  
• “A Letter to Paul Wolfowitz, by Andrew J. Bacevich” (Harper’s Magazine)
• “War Made Easy: How Presidents & Pundits Keep Spinning Us to Death (2007)” (IMDb)
• “State Department Cables” (WikiLeaks)
• “Russia Secretly Offered Afghan Militants Bounties to Kill U.S. Troops, Intelligence Says” (The New York Times)

Andrew Cockburn is the Washington editor of Harper’s Magazine and the author of Kill Chain: The Rise of the High-Tech Assassins. Follow him on Twitter @andrewmcockburn.

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Mark Perry discusses the bizarre case of the Stryker, a vehicle used by the U.S. army to transport infantry troops to the battlefield. The Stryker, Perry explains, is a deathtrap: it isn’t heavily armored enough to stand up to real combat, it rolls over easily and it can’t withstand IEDs or tank rounds. What’s more, everyone seems to know this. And yet the Pentagon is spending nearly a billion dollars on a new contract, not to give the Stryker better armor, but to put machine guns on it. Perry describes this as putting a tourniquet on the wrong part of the body, and is emblematic of the kind of wasteful spending that has been draining America’s treasury and putting lives at risk for decades.

Discussed on the show:

• “The Stryker is a ‘deathtrap’ but you’re paying for it anyway” (Quincy Institute for Responsible Statecraft)
• “The Outpost (2019)” (IMDb)
• “The Pentagon Wars (TV Movie 1998)” (IMDb)

Mark Perry is the author of Talking to Terrorists: Why America Must Engage with its Enemies, The Most Dangerous Man in America: The Making of Douglas MacArthur, and The Pentagon’s Wars. Read his work at The American Conservative Magazine and follow him on Twitter @MarkPerryDC.

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Scott and Matthew Hoh have a wide-ranging conversation about America’s war on terrorism. The latest news is that the U.S. troop withdrawal from Afghanistan is essentially complete, with the exception of a small number of soldiers, contractors and CIA operatives ostensibly remaining behind for diplomatic purposes. Hoh is optimistic about the possibility of the American military really being finished with Afghanistan now, though he and Scott both fear that the resulting instability could be used as an excuse to lobby for continued intervention. Hoh also discusses veteran suicide rates from the post-9/11 wars, which have surged way beyond those of the general population in recent years.

Discussed on the show:

• “High Suicide Rates among United States Service Members and Veterans of the Post-9/11 Wars” (Cost of War Project)
• “The Redirection” (The New Yorker)
• No Good Men Among the Living: America, the Taliban, and the War through Afghan Eyes
  
• “Mike Gravel and An Ongoing Road to Courage” (CounterPunch.org)
• The Pentagon Papers

Matthew Hoh is a senior fellow at the Center for International Policy and formerly worked for the U.S. State Department. Hoh received the Ridenhour Prize Recipient for Truth Telling in 2010. Hoh is a member of the Board of Directors for Council for a Livable World and is an Advisory Board Member for Expose Facts. He writes on issues of war, peace and post-traumatic stress disorder recovery at matthewhoh.com.

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Phil Weiss comes back on the show to talk about Israel-Palestine. Now that Netanyahu has been ousted, Weiss is hopeful about the Biden administration’s ability to work with Israel’s new coalition government on issues like settlements and the Iran nuclear deal. Although Israel’s new prime minister, Naftali Bennett, is possibly even further to the right than Netanyahu, he is working closely with centrist Yair Lapid and, for the first time ever, with an Arab party in the Knesset. Weiss is also optimistic about the international community: the Israelis have gone too far, he thinks, in “establishing facts on the ground”—in other words, everyone can see that the two-state solution is dead, and the Israeli government is nakedly presiding over an apartheid regime.

Discussed on the show:

• “Israel is ‘considerably weakened’ — as BDS finds a home in the Democratic Party” (Mondoweiss)
• “Biden won’t make Obama’s mistake — so there will be ‘no daylight’ between U.S. and Israel” (Mondoweiss)
• “Israeli Authorities and the Crimes of Apartheid and Persecution” (Human Rights Watch)

Philip Weiss is the long-time editor of Mondoweiss.net. Follow him on Twitter @PhilWeiss.

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Scott interviews James Carden, Adviser to The American Committee for US-Russia Accord, about relations between Russia and the European Union. In recent years, Carden explains, some EU states have shown themselves unwilling to even sit down to cordial negotiations with Russia, who has been getting a reputation—largely thanks to Western media—for aggressive territorial expansion. This depiction could hardly be further from the truth. With the exception of Russia’s annexation of Crimea, which was mostly peaceful and explicitly called for by the residents of that region, Russia has shown no indications of hegemonic designs on Eastern Europe. If anything, it’s the United States and some of its European allies that have been trying to expand into Russian territory by bringing more and more Eastern nations into NATO. Since the Soviet Union collapsed, this project is utterly pointless—and it’s also extremely dangerous. America ought to be careful that it doesn’t cross any Russian red lines, the only resolution to which would be all-out war.

Discussed on the show:

• “Why Ostpolitik with Russia runs along East-West Euro Divide” (Quincy Institute for Responsible Statecraft)
• “Opinion | The Strange Death of Liberal Russophobia” (The New York Times)
• “Nyet Means Nyet” (WikiLeaks)

James Carden is the executive editor for the American Committee for East-West Accord and former adviser on Russia policy at the US State Department. He is a contributing writer at The Nation.

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